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I am going to Tokyo Japan for a week from 1st Jan 2012. We are looking for Japan PUA group, and so far we still do not know any.

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I’m a female, and read Neil Strauss: The Game and this article (and comments!:) with interest. And the newer articles up above, lol.
I am really surprised at how clueless some guys (and girls) can be… (iRL or on other forums…) Even some really good-looking guys/girls (with low self-esteem or such).

So I’m not against trying to teach those guys (and girls) to date successfully… I agree the real challenge is in trying to keep and maintain honesty and integrity, and in learning how to have a relationship, not just a one night or a few weeks (or months) of fun…
I hope any ‘bootcamp’ or any courses teach guys what to look for in a woman too, and how to get to know each other, so there’s some compatibility, not just random ‘hotness’…
Basically it’s important that girls and guys learn to communicate effectively, and to find people who are looking for what they are…

Some of the ‘techniques’ from books or such do work iRL, and I sometimes looked back in surprise: was this guy using techniques or was he just ‘a natural’? lol
Sometimes misunderstandings can occur too… (if people use techniques without thinking, or while just trying to be friendly/’practising’ or such… hearts can be broken, etc.)
So these techniques can be misused and well, in a way it’s maybe good to know them so you can at least recognize them…? And then decide whether to use any of the knowledge or not.. Though again, many people pick these things up naturally too..

And people can ‘despise’ others if they feel they only got ‘tricked’ into this… (Strauss wrote about that too…) I think it’s important that people see each other as people, not just ‘another dating notch’ or something like that.
Some people who had very ‘wild lives’ became very bitter about it and lived their later life in seclusion or such.. And we know what happened to some rock stars and such..

I guess there needs to be some sort of balance.. in one’s life and then dating goes easier too.. If you’re doing things you enjoy doing and live a life you like living, your enthusiasm and joi de vivre are going to charm a lot of people!!

1) Talk to more women
2) Improve the quality of each interaction

A lot of what Major Bristol says is right on. While it’s simple, it’s not always easy. Teaching this stuff is about finding way to make it easy to do.

The funniest stand up comedians don’t just show up on stage planning to be funny. They write and re-write their material and then they practice delivering it over and over until they get the delivery just right.

You can’t be successful at the highest levels of anything without that process.

Some guys need to start by using memorized lines; other guys have no problem taping into their creative ability when they are in front of girls but have problems elsewhere, like asking for the phone number, or following up to set up a date.

Major Bristol,

I’m in Tokyo until Tuesday or so. If you’re still in Tokyo, let’s get together for a coffee or something. You can contact me at: RedpoleQ (at) PickUp Asia (dot) com

Does the author think that searching for the most effective way of manipulating women is at all healthy or that it could yield worthwhile relationships? If you can’t openly communicate with a women on equal terms, however promiscuous your intentions may be, your relationship is bound to fail.
The whole idea of “leading” discussed in this article is super immature and misogynistic to the point of being laughable. The main points of this article are overconfident, simplistic and undeveloped. These facts aside, it doesn’t help that he’s trying to convince us of a superior method of bedding hot women of a specific race he has discovered. The author’s ridiculous ‘mystical zone of innate understanding’ must be the spectacularly delusional realm of fantasy he was residing in when he wrote this piece.

This site/community needs to improve it’s vetting process if they think content like this worth posting. Since when haas posting predatory “dating” advice been kosher? Maybe you can follow this piece up with advice on sex tourism in Asia.

I realize that this is a fairly old article but think its worth commenting, regardless.
Normally I regard this blog and its content to possess at least a basic level of moral fiber, considering its loose association with the Monbukagakusho community. I hope you’re more discerning in the future.

“None of this is about tricking women or getting them into bed the night you meet them.”

My point wasn’t that there’s something wrong with shooting for a hole in one, but that the entire raison d’etre of the “boot camp” and course is that you can get women by talking to them in a certain way. Maybe “tricking” is a too blunt a word, but the point stands. Why would anyone bother with the camp if they didn’t think it was going to allow them to pick up women they couldn’t get otherwise?

“This is about how to improve yourself to get the woman you want (no tricking involved). ”

Sorry, but he surest way to get women is to get rich and/or famous. A biological fact. Learn to live it with it. Beyond that, how in the world is learning to chat to women strategically “improving yourself?”

“Women are different in that they don’t care as much about looks(as much as men do) if they are attracted to you.”

True, but irrelevant. They may care less about looks, but looks are still No. 1, whether or not women will admit it. Women are much more likely to give a semi unattractive guy a shot, but he’ll be working from a disadvantage compared with the stud, every time.

“You claim all the hot women are taken.”

I see you have the same problem as sushikid. You don’t pay attention. I said most hot women are committed one way or another. Sure, quite a few are available, in one way or another. But the point is, they all have numerous options for companionship. They seldom feel truly lonely, unless they are the highly selective type. And sorry, but it is absurd to say no one approaches the most attractive women. Sit anywhere you like and observe — they are treated to a constant parade of approaches. Their whole game is fending off the dogs so they can lure the prince.

“Keep living in your world and be happy with the women(or woman) that you settle for.”

I’ve got nothing against the pick-up lifestyle, as long as you can live it honestly and successfully. Few can, really. Most guys who pick up a lot of girls are constantly cutting corners on honesty. More often than not, they get burned their fair share of times because of it. And a few get burned badly and basically ruin their lives and the lives of others. But they also have a LOT of good times on the way and do so by their own free choice, so I certainly don’t begrudge them or anything, but I know there are not many people who can live that lifestyle well.

I hope you don’t begrudge people who reject that lifestyle..

How do I know?

Because you obviously haven’t paid attention to the answers I already gave you.

I also know that you’re one of the “Osaka Crew” guys trying to make the point that someone who gives dating advice should have some sort of canned conversation they can dispense like a pancake recipe or a diet. Either that, or you’re a customer of the Osaka Crew trying to make the same point. It’s obvious sushikid. But I don’t mind playing along. I am interested to see how far you think you can string it along and keep playing like I don’t know who you are. (your writing style and logic formation matches stuntman’s a little to closely, don’t you think?)

Here’s what you’d already understand if you had paid attention to what I wrote:
Rejection is unavoidable. Most hot women will reject you. (If they didn’t, picking up would be about as exciting as ordering the lunch special at Denny’s five days a week.)

Most hot women are already committed in one way or another. Either that, or they are extremely selective. In either case, you are left with only one choice, accept rejection as part of the game and focus on making sure you chat up ENOUGH women so that the 20 percent or even 10 percent that do say yes gives you the number of dates you’d like to be having week after week.

It’s the numbers. Just like sales. No different. The more women you approach, the more dates you will get and the more relationships you’ll experience. If you are determined to date the best looking women, who probably aren’t attracted to you on sight, it will be even more important to approach large numbers and to have a positive, creative response to rejection.

Do the math. The most attractive men often date 2, 3 or more of the most attractive women simultaneously. (If the Osaka Crew is half as successful as it claims to be, think how many women they’re keeping away from “average” guys.) At the same time, the most attractive women usually date only one guy at a time. It is a somewhat unfortunate biological fact, but a fact indeed, that men who are not in the most attractive category will have to contend with having far less than their fair share of attractive women available to them.

Not to worry. There is still plenty to go around if you are willing to work the numbers.

You seem very concerned about being sure to say the right thing. But there is never one right thing to say to all women in all typical situations. Successful pick up artists must think their feet. What you say will ALWAYS be customized to what the woman you’re talking with is saying to you.

Listening is the most important thing. You must listen with your ears and your eyes and very carefully detect the nuances of what a woman is telling you when you are chatting her up.

That is why having a canned rap doesn’t work. Everything you say needs to link directly to what she says. Spontaneity is crucial. That is the simple art of conversation. Simple to understand, though difficult to do, even impossible for some. Knowing what to say is the easy part. Listening with intensity is more difficult, but that’s where the payoff is.

Read a lot and widely. Do that, and you will always have a lot to talk about. And there is one thing that women find most interesting of all — themselves. To the extent possible, keep the conversation focused on them and you can’t go wrong.

A couple of other things: it is important to remember that by far the best way to meet quality women is by introduction through friends. If you become a trustworthy platonic friend to a hottie, there is a good chance she will introduce you to one or more of her hot friends — especially if you simply ask her to. Introductions save time and improve your success ration. All dates are pre-qualified, to some degree, at least. This is another reason not to try to rush things with canned lines and the kind of ludicrous mind games the Osaka Crew peddles. (Some of that they say is perfectly valid — the stuff that should be common sense to most men. The rest is useless and based on the moronic notion that you can trick women into liking you or that tricking women who don’t like you into sleeping with you is a rewarding lifestyle.

“Ok, you said I have to try to generate the conversation on my own, I tried before, and it really worked…such like at the party, I asked a girl if she likes the music or what does she think about the drink….it worked well for conversation opener, but the hardest part that I have been struggling with is to “lead” the conversation that already started into more “intimate” conversation to lure her to think that I am not a stranger to her and tap her “unconscious” mind to ignite her interest on me. Usually, I ran out of topic in the middle of conversation or I was afraid to ask follow up questions that would be considered to “personal” for her, like “what is your hobbies” or “do you have boyfriend” or “so, what are you doing on the weekend, hang out with your boyfriend?” or “am I holding you up from getting back to your boyfriend’s side?” or something like that. I think those questions are good to ask when we already become friend and know each other a bit longer, right? I can’t just asked those questions after met her just 10-15 minutes ago. Even if she positively replied “boyfriend? oh no i don’t have a boyfriend”, what should I follow up with….can I say like “really? i don’t believe someone as cute and nice like you don’t have a boyfriend yet” and ask “may i have your number? we should hang out sometimes”……do you think it is a good idea?”

I am just a bit clueless and lost on how to follow up the conversation to make her feel comfortable and give me her number naturally, because once I just asked “tell me your number” and she said her phone is broken or she used a pre-paid phone that almost run out of balance and other lame excuse to brush me off, so I really need your advice on this.
Thank you very much, ‘prreciate it!