Does the author think that searching for the most effective way of manipulating women is at all healthy or that it could yield worthwhile relationships? If you can’t openly communicate with a women on equal terms, however promiscuous your intentions may be, your relationship is bound to fail.
The whole idea of “leading” discussed in this article is super immature and misogynistic to the point of being laughable. The main points of this article are overconfident, simplistic and undeveloped. These facts aside, it doesn’t help that he’s trying to convince us of a superior method of bedding hot women of a specific race he has discovered. The author’s ridiculous ‘mystical zone of innate understanding’ must be the spectacularly delusional realm of fantasy he was residing in when he wrote this piece.

This site/community needs to improve it’s vetting process if they think content like this worth posting. Since when haas posting predatory “dating” advice been kosher? Maybe you can follow this piece up with advice on sex tourism in Asia.

I realize that this is a fairly old article but think its worth commenting, regardless.
Normally I regard this blog and its content to possess at least a basic level of moral fiber, considering its loose association with the Monbukagakusho community. I hope you’re more discerning in the future.

“None of this is about tricking women or getting them into bed the night you meet them.”

My point wasn’t that there’s something wrong with shooting for a hole in one, but that the entire raison d’etre of the “boot camp” and course is that you can get women by talking to them in a certain way. Maybe “tricking” is a too blunt a word, but the point stands. Why would anyone bother with the camp if they didn’t think it was going to allow them to pick up women they couldn’t get otherwise?

“This is about how to improve yourself to get the woman you want (no tricking involved). ”

Sorry, but he surest way to get women is to get rich and/or famous. A biological fact. Learn to live it with it. Beyond that, how in the world is learning to chat to women strategically “improving yourself?”

“Women are different in that they don’t care as much about looks(as much as men do) if they are attracted to you.”

True, but irrelevant. They may care less about looks, but looks are still No. 1, whether or not women will admit it. Women are much more likely to give a semi unattractive guy a shot, but he’ll be working from a disadvantage compared with the stud, every time.

“You claim all the hot women are taken.”

I see you have the same problem as sushikid. You don’t pay attention. I said most hot women are committed one way or another. Sure, quite a few are available, in one way or another. But the point is, they all have numerous options for companionship. They seldom feel truly lonely, unless they are the highly selective type. And sorry, but it is absurd to say no one approaches the most attractive women. Sit anywhere you like and observe — they are treated to a constant parade of approaches. Their whole game is fending off the dogs so they can lure the prince.

“Keep living in your world and be happy with the women(or woman) that you settle for.”

I’ve got nothing against the pick-up lifestyle, as long as you can live it honestly and successfully. Few can, really. Most guys who pick up a lot of girls are constantly cutting corners on honesty. More often than not, they get burned their fair share of times because of it. And a few get burned badly and basically ruin their lives and the lives of others. But they also have a LOT of good times on the way and do so by their own free choice, so I certainly don’t begrudge them or anything, but I know there are not many people who can live that lifestyle well.

I hope you don’t begrudge people who reject that lifestyle..

How do I know?

Because you obviously haven’t paid attention to the answers I already gave you.

I also know that you’re one of the “Osaka Crew” guys trying to make the point that someone who gives dating advice should have some sort of canned conversation they can dispense like a pancake recipe or a diet. Either that, or you’re a customer of the Osaka Crew trying to make the same point. It’s obvious sushikid. But I don’t mind playing along. I am interested to see how far you think you can string it along and keep playing like I don’t know who you are. (your writing style and logic formation matches stuntman’s a little to closely, don’t you think?)

Here’s what you’d already understand if you had paid attention to what I wrote:
Rejection is unavoidable. Most hot women will reject you. (If they didn’t, picking up would be about as exciting as ordering the lunch special at Denny’s five days a week.)

Most hot women are already committed in one way or another. Either that, or they are extremely selective. In either case, you are left with only one choice, accept rejection as part of the game and focus on making sure you chat up ENOUGH women so that the 20 percent or even 10 percent that do say yes gives you the number of dates you’d like to be having week after week.

It’s the numbers. Just like sales. No different. The more women you approach, the more dates you will get and the more relationships you’ll experience. If you are determined to date the best looking women, who probably aren’t attracted to you on sight, it will be even more important to approach large numbers and to have a positive, creative response to rejection.

Do the math. The most attractive men often date 2, 3 or more of the most attractive women simultaneously. (If the Osaka Crew is half as successful as it claims to be, think how many women they’re keeping away from “average” guys.) At the same time, the most attractive women usually date only one guy at a time. It is a somewhat unfortunate biological fact, but a fact indeed, that men who are not in the most attractive category will have to contend with having far less than their fair share of attractive women available to them.

Not to worry. There is still plenty to go around if you are willing to work the numbers.

You seem very concerned about being sure to say the right thing. But there is never one right thing to say to all women in all typical situations. Successful pick up artists must think their feet. What you say will ALWAYS be customized to what the woman you’re talking with is saying to you.

Listening is the most important thing. You must listen with your ears and your eyes and very carefully detect the nuances of what a woman is telling you when you are chatting her up.

That is why having a canned rap doesn’t work. Everything you say needs to link directly to what she says. Spontaneity is crucial. That is the simple art of conversation. Simple to understand, though difficult to do, even impossible for some. Knowing what to say is the easy part. Listening with intensity is more difficult, but that’s where the payoff is.

Read a lot and widely. Do that, and you will always have a lot to talk about. And there is one thing that women find most interesting of all — themselves. To the extent possible, keep the conversation focused on them and you can’t go wrong.

A couple of other things: it is important to remember that by far the best way to meet quality women is by introduction through friends. If you become a trustworthy platonic friend to a hottie, there is a good chance she will introduce you to one or more of her hot friends — especially if you simply ask her to. Introductions save time and improve your success ration. All dates are pre-qualified, to some degree, at least. This is another reason not to try to rush things with canned lines and the kind of ludicrous mind games the Osaka Crew peddles. (Some of that they say is perfectly valid — the stuff that should be common sense to most men. The rest is useless and based on the moronic notion that you can trick women into liking you or that tricking women who don’t like you into sleeping with you is a rewarding lifestyle.

“Ok, you said I have to try to generate the conversation on my own, I tried before, and it really worked…such like at the party, I asked a girl if she likes the music or what does she think about the drink….it worked well for conversation opener, but the hardest part that I have been struggling with is to “lead” the conversation that already started into more “intimate” conversation to lure her to think that I am not a stranger to her and tap her “unconscious” mind to ignite her interest on me. Usually, I ran out of topic in the middle of conversation or I was afraid to ask follow up questions that would be considered to “personal” for her, like “what is your hobbies” or “do you have boyfriend” or “so, what are you doing on the weekend, hang out with your boyfriend?” or “am I holding you up from getting back to your boyfriend’s side?” or something like that. I think those questions are good to ask when we already become friend and know each other a bit longer, right? I can’t just asked those questions after met her just 10-15 minutes ago. Even if she positively replied “boyfriend? oh no i don’t have a boyfriend”, what should I follow up with….can I say like “really? i don’t believe someone as cute and nice like you don’t have a boyfriend yet” and ask “may i have your number? we should hang out sometimes”……do you think it is a good idea?”

I am just a bit clueless and lost on how to follow up the conversation to make her feel comfortable and give me her number naturally, because once I just asked “tell me your number” and she said her phone is broken or she used a pre-paid phone that almost run out of balance and other lame excuse to brush me off, so I really need your advice on this.
Thank you very much, ‘prreciate it!

Why is it obvious? You use the same sort of language: “leading” the conversation with women, “Cali,” your nickname “sushikid” etc. Even more tellingly, your logic follows exactly the Osaka Crew’s advertising pitch.

You ask:
“But what about if I ask something stupid and not only one girl, but all girls that I approached within that 1 hour rejected or ignored me?”

Keep trying. You have to be able to generate conversation on your own. The last thing you want to do is to try using canned lines you were taught at a “boot camp” or from a book. You must be creative and you must take an honest, earnest interest in the woman you’re talking with. That doesn’t mean you have to want to fall in love with every girl you chat up, it means you need to find something about them that sincerely intrigues you. If you can’t find that, find another target.
If you can’t do that, admit it, and accept your fate. Nothing wrong with being a “normal” guy and leaving the “pick up” game to others who have talent for it.
If, on the other hand, you CAN deliver canned lines convincingly, forget about Japan! Head straight for Hollywood: you’ve got a huge career in acting ahead, and the women will be doing their best to pick you up once you’ve made it there.

You ask:
“What is the line that you use the most to get her phone number at the end of the conversation?”

I never use a “line” for that. One of the great things about Japan is you almost never have to worry about this. Nine times out of 10, a gal will give you her business card right after you give her yours. If she doesn’t, just say: If you give me your phone number, I promise to call you. Or: May I have your phone number?
It’s a huge mistake to use any kind of subterfuge or smooth moves to get a woman’s phone number. If she gives it to you under those circumstances, you have just succeeded in adding a prospect that’s not fully qualified, i.e. a potential waste of time. And remember, you’ve already given her your biz card. If she was too shy or embarrassed to give you her number, she can always contact you if she’s interested.
If you’re going to be a pick up artist, you’re very quickly going to find that the biggest limit on your dating activities is time. The very last thing you need is to waste time calling a woman who wasn’t interested enough in you to straight up give you her phone number when you asked for it straight up.

You write:
“ I just thought she would not want to hang out with a stranger that she just met for 10-15 minutes that easy, especially if she got the looks.”

Your instincts are correct. 8 out of 10 nice-looking women will not even think of spending time with someone they just met for 10-minutes, unless you’re exceptionally handsome, exceptionally wealthy or so infectiously entertaining you make the Osaka Crew look like a bunch of momma’s-boy accountants. (But if you were a wealthy, entertaining stud, you wouldn’t be writing this e-mail, would you?)

You need to play the numbers game. Only 2 in 10 of the finest-looking women are even going to consider your approach. You write that you’re afraid that saying the wrong thing will turn one off and she’ll ignore you. The odds are very high you’ll be ignored anyway! If you really want to count your success in numbers and if you really want to target only the hotter-to-hottest gals, you have to accept that you’ll be rejected a lot. That means you’re only chance to do real numbers is to be prepared to approach dozens of women and to gracefully embrace rejection as a learning experience.

Thank you, thank you so much, so the key is keep practicing and forget my dignity, am I right?
But what about if I ask something stupid and not only one girl, but all girls that I approaced within that 1 hour rejected or ignored me? I ever read a book that you have to be careful and pay attention in what you say when you are talking with women, one mistake can ruin her mood and brush her off.
What is the line that you use the most to get her phone number at the end of the conversation? I just thought she would not want to hang out with a stranger that she just met for 10-15 minutes that easy, especially if she got the looks.

Also, I am not quite sure what do you mean by “lastly, i am pretty sure sushikid is already in the Osaka Crew. he uses the same lingo. obvious”? I am in Cali right now and there is no Osaka Crew in here (I think), and I haven’t take their lesson.